WoW Cataclysm Warrior Changes
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Warriors were heavily cheated last expansion when many cool new abilities were announced for their class, and then nerfed to the ground or even removed from the game.
Warriors in WoW Cataclysm definitely don’t want to see more of the same, and any annoucement that is made will be approached with cautious optimism. Blizzard must have had their past mistakes in mind, because this time around nothing major has been announced for Warriors in World of Wacraft: Cataclysm.
Here is the new additions to warrior class in Cataclysm so far:
- This is the big Warrior announcement that we have for WoW Cataclysm so far: Developers agree that Arms lost their iconic ability when Mortal Strike was given to more classes. They want to find a new ability to fill that niche or make Arms’ MS the “ultimate” mortal strike.
- Heroic Strike and other ‘next time you attack’ abilities will see a change, as Blizzard doesn’t like the way it works
- Warriors will not be affected greatly by itemization changes in WoW Cataclysm. Devs like the itemization of Warriors, and plan on making other classes more similar to Warriors in that respect.
- Blizzard will allow Fury Warriors with 1 handed weapons to be viable again.
- You will be able to have a Blood Elf Warrior in WoW Cataclysm if that is what you wished.
That’s it for now regarding Warrior Changes in WoW Cataclysm, be sure to stay tuned as this is obviously just scrathing the surface of new spells and abilities for warriors in WoW Cataclysm.
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“Blizzard will allow Fury Warriors with 1 handed weapons to be viable again” I would like to see how blizz will make 1 handed wp viable. Same dmg as two handed or new abilities fow 1 handed? This change Im very very waiting…
P.S. Me not spk english
I’m fairly happy with how my warrior plays, i’m not great at fury, but i know some who are, a return to one hand viability will be welcome news for some
As a tank its very slightly lagging behind some other classes, but its so much fun to play and is still very much a viable tank that this doesn’t matter.. Also it would upset me if i didn’t have to work a little to do the job… In regards the article i’m sorry to hear there hasn’t been much announced.. But fearnot… We know they,re looking into overhauling rage from their blue posts 
and theres sure to be many small changes to come 
Blizzard is once again full of crap with respect to Fury warriors.
i agree that it is fun to tank as a warrior, it actually takes skill to tank as a warrior, not just a simple DnD or Concerate, however i would really love to see a few more AoE moves, just to make it a bit easier to AoE aggro. Thunder clap–>Shockwave –> then spamming cleave while tabbing barely cuts it in the big raids, plus since new places like H ToC mobs are immune to taunt, i find it extremely difficult to tank, if u lose aggro its pretty much all over. I dont want a warriors version of a DnD… i would just like 1 or 2 low CD aoe moves to help out a bit. how about all you other warrior tanks out there? good idea or is it just me that sucks at aoe tanking haha.
I love my Prot/Furry warrior! Don’t take him away from me.
1handed fury!??! i though they said they were done nerfing warriors to the ground! now you say they are removing dual wielding 2handers… ya know what? you can just %#*@ off!!! we want heroic leap! we want titans grip! we want the 10% dmg nerf removed! we dont want to miss on 28% of all white attacks! we want to be savage barbarians! if blizzard is going to give all classes a new OP talent, we want a new OP talent too dammit and we dont want it to get nerfed 2 weeks after the release!!!!!!!!
they’re not taking away titan’s grip lol, they’re just making use of 1h weps to warriors, considering rogues are the only ones still using 1h dps weapons, i find it a good itea lol.
i love my arms warrior fury is crap from my aspect my warrior rocks and would liek to see fury with 2 2hrds and not 1 blizzard stuffed up again
I agree with rickrick, all the fury nerfs have destroyed the spec in pvp AND pve, so in my opinion arms is the way to go. i have a 2600 wow-heros gear score and ive found arms pulls exceptional DPS compared to fury, sure fury could be played by a retarded money with downsyndrome, in other words takes no concentration to play other then waiting for bloodsurge to proc wich u can get an addon for, but its just crappy since u miss have of ur hits above hit cap and u get destroyed in pvp. Arms on the other hand is more complex but its worth it, great pvp with MS and BS and awesome in pve, what ive found is Arms is for serious dps and fury is for people that want to show off the 2 badass weapons they have. Ill play fury again… just as long as they fix it in cataclysm. As for new attacks i wanna see an maybe an AOE that uses all the rage u have, looks like holy nova and aracane explosion, if u use with 10 rage it will hit less then if u use it with 100 rage, thatd be cool =)
i think this suck lock get new pet other people get upgreaded amour but worriors get nothing wooooow 1 move extra i think we should get a new amour to only our class with insane stats and ohn the tree to take away the side affect on tittans grip and we should be able to do bladestorm wile being a fury worrior and tittans grip for arms
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guys, they never said they woz removing the Titan’s Grip, just making 1h wep specs viable. Viable doesnt mean taking the other version away, it means making it actually reasonably decent by comparison to other specs. Personally, i think the change is gr8
Hey ARMS warrior,
i don’t think that is what rickrick was saying at all.
Also, what gives you the right to bash fury warrior so far as to make fun of the people who play them.
Just because you choose a different spec you are automatically smarted and more skilled than all the other fury warriors who just do it to ’show off’
You took it too far with the whole “retarded money with downsyndrome”
By the way, learn how to use a spell checker bro.
On a more related note, I don’t care if 1h weapons are viable or not, I think having 2 two-handers is freaking cool so I’m gonna do it either way
Tånked you just proved his point right by saying “I think having 2 two-handers is freaking cool so I’m gonna do it either way.”
He said “fury is for people that want to show off the 2 badass weapons they have.”
…. You literally just proved him 100% completely right by saying that, and than you say dont bash on us just cause we’re a different spec, basically you just told us “yes, im a retarted monkey who loves Fury cause it looks cool, even though arms, w/out a doubt, has more DPS”…. “Get a spell check bro”
He doesnt need a spell check when hes dealing with dumbass’s like you who prove him right either way.
But good try anyways… lmfao god i love people on the internet…..
@ Protwarrior
No, its just you. Our AoE Tanking is just as viable as other tanks. If not more viable, as we have two mobile AoE abilities, and cleave is amazing. Also, we have Vigilance, if you must, put it on your higheset AoE dps. I hope you’re using the right glyphs…if you’re struggling with AoE tanking, glyph of sunder armor hits 2 targets…Glyph of Vigilance is great if you struggle with threat. Hopefully you’re able to improve with the information I just gave you. Good luck!
if you guys wanna see a nice arms warrior look up hardhead on kil’jeaden he is my warrior and rocks pants i know other people have been saying i should go to fury as ai pull 7.5k dps in 25 man normal toc but arms FTW duel weild arms pve / arms pvp is ftw look him up muchly apricated
hate to break it to you guys but with weapons past 232 lvl fury becomes better DPS no matter how skilled the arms warrior is, with the same high lvled gear and if they both bust there rotation out perfectly fury will run about 1k more than fury (its been done, its been tested) personaly i loved 1-handed fury, i can see them doing some sort of “choose between 2 2-handers or 1-handers” tallent thing where titans grip is the same but 1-hander gets some sort of buff (haste, damage i dont know) but all in all im throughly enjoying the prospect of hitting small and fast
Fury spec VS Arms spec in DPS?rofl guys…
You can check forums (e.g elitistjerks.com) and all you are gonna discover is Fury is THE absolute warrior spec as DPS.Not “show-off” nor nothing.
Arms warrior lacks about 500-700DPS to Fury.Yes, Arms has a great rotation and must be more consertraded to your screen but all you have to do for DPS is waiting Bladestorm.The other abilities are just too slow.
Dual-wield is the secret to that.
Go fury then,in PvE spec.That’s all
Arms>Fury in PvP,
Im very curious to see how they will make warriors have the “Ultimate” mortal strike effect once again. As far as the dps chatter, as an arms warrior, I agree fury is the better PvE spec for dps. However, fury gets smoked by Arms in PvP even sporting 2 relentless 2h weapons, Arms still does wonders over fury in a PvP sense. What I would like to see is everyone’s MS effect get dropped to 30% and keep warriors MS at 50% because I dont see warriors MS effect going up to 65% although this would be really nice.
-side note, feral gets a pounce similar to the description of heroic leap and hunters get disengage which is almost the reverse effect, however blizzard claims they didnt have the mechanics to make heroic leap work?? I mean come on its basically a feral pounce with a shadowfury effect when you hit the ground geeez how hard is that?
All these changes, however, what blizzard really needs to fix is the Charge lag ( you know when you charge and the person skips 10 yards away and by the time you get to them the stun is down and your forced to intercept)might as well put a daze effect after the stun for 3 secs so we can actually catch up because we know its impossible to fix player to player lag.
@ Polution
Thanks a bunch for the tips! it actually helped out a lot, AoE tanking is actually much better and easier for me now, i absolutely see where you are coming from with the “two mobile tanking abilitys.”
Thanks Again, Happy Tanking
there will be nothing good for a warrior, unless they fix rage, rage problems for ever. and if 1h weapons viable again, TG will be useless, that the worst thing they wanna do with warrior, and i agree with most of u here, time for fury warrior is dead! arms warrior ? with bladestorm? now all classes have MS so i guess its bladestorm, well yeah its OK talent but not in pvp most of the time u push button with /cancelaura blade storm! just gief back enrage damage bonus
Hi…Warrior well only get 3-4new crap stuff and 100% nerfs after nerfs spam because blizzard hate it .
am not going to talk alot because i did and am done with it.
you be the judge.
895Resiliance+shield+Defance stance=i take 10k crits from casters my hp go below 40% after cheep shut and kidney shut.
now blizzard dont you think that warriors need something called[Reduce chance to get a crit or reduce damage we take?
WARLOCKSGET SOULBURN AND GOD KNOWS WHAT AND WE GET THE ABILITY TO HOLD TWO 1 HANDED WEAPONS (WAW!!) …IDIOTS STOP FIGHTING WE NED TO DO SOMETHING..
PS TO BLIZZARD ..I HAVE A MAGE AND I TAKEN THE 3 POINTS IN [IMPROVED BLIZZARD] BUT THE COMPANY STILL SUCKS WONDER WHY!!
OK so Fury>Arms Arms>Fury, trust me you get a skilled player with gear for both specs and you will see great numbers. The playing style is a bit different for both classes, though I am happy to see a work in for threat reduction coming for warriors because without vigilance I have to set the aggro warning to almost 70% to make certain I don’t pull aggro off the tank unless its a prot warrior stacking the vigilance glyph.
PVP Fury, yeah right, I will believe that when I see it. (Though if you look closely they have 2 talents in the fury tree for pvp, one for a healing debuff and the other a freedom movement one.)
So far I am very happy with both specs for pve and am impressed that Blizz has done decently making end game gear for fury actually pull some dps again. I was sad to go to arms into Ulduar but really enjoyed the mechanics of playing in and even grabbed a tanking set for pvp cause its annoying waiting on a tank for isle of conquest.
Thank you Blizzard for making a great game.
Not to be a necromancer about this, but since this discussion is still viable I wanted to add my thought.
Being a warrior should be fun, and Titan’s Grip is a pain in the butt to deal with! I think making 1H weapons viable is great because then we can use powerful 1H weapons that miss less and focus on less hit rating and more on something else like haste. In the end this could be a serious dps boost for the warrior. We are so gear dependent so perhaps they should allow us this option to specialize in 1H over 2H.
However if the change results in less dps then I really fail to see the point of this.
The fact that warriors are getting out dps’d by not one but several other classes is just sad. They need to boost our abilities dps and reduce reliance on gear. Heck I say let us have a talent point that we can use to get a 1/2 attack power boost per 1 agility.
well ive been playing wow for about 4yrs or so and sounds cool i like the idea of the one hander cause i was dualspec furry but a pain in ass to get the hit crit miss the old having furry and arms with the dual 1hander cant wait for us warriors to be what our class is intended to be for once not to get the short end of the wow tallent stick i guess its cause our class is such a pain in the rear ro develope or being such complex class in wow GO WARRIORS palis = op lamies
Well…this sucks…the warrior got enough Nerfs…NOW THIS?! i not sure if they will remove the Titans grip or not but we will juet get 2 – 3 new Sh**ty Items?
when i saw the trailer for Cataclysm…i went all freaky of new gear etc…now when i bumb into some sites saying wat will be in Cataclysm…i burst into tears…
I SAY AGAIN
We got Enough Nerfs!!!
but still…i Love WoW tho it will be a bit fucked up in Cataclysm i hope they will do something about it
and, i hope, they will sort things out with the warriors
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this is getting a bit to long =)
Fury, Arms and Prot warrios FTW
gosh…i need to L2 Spell :S
ok donno about your opinions but i am sick and tired of blizz…with any patch they put..any change they make…..all they do is nerf warriors..no matter spec no nothing…while they are fuking buffing shammys…stupid 10 year old class paladins…now srsly blizz consider giefing warriors some nice buffs or else
ok here is 2changes made warriors go below other melee classes which is good in a way and sux alot.
[Execute]=we can use it must of the time but we make 70%less damage with it now [takes only 30rage from 100]you can call that a rage fix but still warriors have rage problem.
[Revenge]=we can spam it with shield block as faster damage but its damage is reduced by 50%
so each buff we get we get a nerf after it so blizzard when well this stop?
“Blizzard will allow Fury Warriors with 1 handed weapons to be viable again” eh i dont like tha,t our duel wielding 2 handed weapon was what made fury warrior special from all the other claases
I do hope that:
A.) titan’s grip will be removed, due to the fact before it came into existence, 2 hander’s were easier to get due to less competition, since 90% of all warriors went fury, while the few and the proud went Arms, now they are shafted a great deal of the time.
B.) The Arm’s tree gets a buff, allowing it to be more widely accepted to go arm’s, since titan’s grip always freak out why arm’s warriors get 2 handers at all since they feel they suck.
hmmm,
Well, it seems that we will have to change quite a lot once again, on an earlier topic regarding AOE tanking with a warrior, yes one can use glyph of vigilance, yes one can spam cleave, with glyph of cleave hitting 1 more mob, yes we have Thunder clap, so fucking what….. we have to use basically all our glyph slots just to be able to keep aggro in a fight , i think its pathetic, i actually re-rolled after Ulduar becuase the aoe tanking just became too much of a hastle,
i say give us the 1 handed boost, great, it will likely increase protection spec dps, but whatever, we dont need it, we need aggro management, more rage, less charge to build rage, its way too difficult regarding the tankadins(pallies) and Dk`s drop theyre AOE and aggro is all theyre`s
Blah, i say Blizzard should make us the strongest
:D haha,
but whatever, i still love my warrior , peace out
a skilled arms warrior who knows what to do in any aoe/single target situation can pull the same DD as a fury warrior if not more, however that doesnt include the dps which the fury warrior will be shoulders above in. but as hopefully we all should know DD is more important.
on fury gettin 2 1h’s viable, i dnt care. im a arms warrior and always have been. all i would like is a nerf on arms warrior threat, nearly every situation with a raid i need to back off cause my threat is far to much to keep on wid my rota – even with vigulance and resorting to gettin my warrior tank mates to intercept me when they aint takin stacks. be it an ability or another addition to battle stance.
intervene* – an sorry for rest of spellin / grammer im a student
They need to nerf all the bubble and hearth pallys, stunfest and sap rouges, blinking noobish mages, 100000 instant cast druids, fearinf warlocks, physic priest, death grip lame dks, and huntards.
I understand your balancing around arena and only around 3v3-5v5 and battle grounds well GZ your scored an EPIC FAIL in that.
Resilience was buffed 3times and still you nerf few classes dps or even making some dps spells more into getting into cc while performing it [bladestorm nerf in 3.3.3]
if your balancing around 3v3 and 5v5 and BGs you should make resilience more effective and not useless
Personally I wish arms could have 2 twohanded on their hands,I wouldn’t change to fury if that was happening. Also I don’t know about you but I saw myself doing +0.5k dps when changing to fury. As for protection they should give us some new move that will attack more enemies. It’s hard to keep the aggro with so many ninja pullers out there:P
Ive played a warrior for like a yr and a half ive got to say why are we so underpowered yet paladins get the luxury of better Buffs and of course the Bubble of Death why do they need a bubble anyway they have plate??? and heals
I hope in cataclysm Mortal Strike can pierce bubbles or something or atleast give us more survivability cause once were stunned were doomed
Warrs for Life
I love my Fury Warrior atm i dont have any problem on my dps cuz i rock! 1.4k arp no proc!. and at tanking ive been a paladin/druid/DK. so far Tanking as a warrior is more Fun cuz u need to think not just aoe. the only thing ive seem is the threat you will not out threat a paladin w/o taunting. you can only out threat a paladin if that paly tank is noob XD. so more threat for the skills thats it. and of course if they will pu OP skills Put OP skill for War too hahaha.
plz unnerf them back, my amrs warrior is so weak, and now i have to coint every rag point to dont lose in PvP while anothe clases is OP.
The stupiest nerf is warriors can be disarmed under bladestorm…. What will be next>? Warriors can wear only mail???
I’d love to be able to use a huge 2-h weapon alongside a slow 1-h weapon.
I only rock arms. PvE and PvP. Its all about how you play. I will go against any fury warrior with same gear and i bet i will come out on top. 11k on festergut. So please stop with this is better or that is better. Its the person playing the toon that makes it happen.
I am a warrior through and through. I just think all the nerfs over the years are hilarious, they won’t stop me playing as a warrior. I’ll keep crushing and pwning other the lame classes to my heart’s content =D
Anyways lets all calm down and try to forget about the mean things blizz has done to us in the past. The full details for warriors haven’t been released yet and from what I’ve heard I am hopeful. Also they aren’t taking away Titan’s Grip, just giving us choice between it and 1hand, which is awesome! now agree fellow warrs:P
Warriors are the back bone class and most original ( I feel) in WoW. However they are being constantly nerfed, and there is no really interesting abilites to play around with. 1v1 we are either kited around by ranged class or against melee classes we still get pwned, because we have no heals, apart from a shit HoT, that dosent do much. Warriors however do alright when we have a healer backing us up. But I think as the most original class blizzard should pay alot more attention to warriors. I also think that fury warrior should hit fast, and at the moment slowhanders are the way to go due to most of our dps based on wep damage.
yeah, thats bull that they didnt have the right mechanics for heroic leap, the battle gunship fight in icc is a great example of them lieing, the jetpacks!?! its the same fucking thing, fuck blizz. but im also actually excited about the ultimate ms. lol
FFS man I hate this shit stop making classes Simular the whole point is that i want my Char’s to be as UNIQUE as possible its pretty anoying because like people get in certain classes for certain rolls N now it doesnt matter because everyone can fuckin do it. And why after Titans grip would warriors want to have 1h weapons? why would you back track like that? imo blizzard need a slap in the face. i want the game to be harder not easier. I want to need have have certain people to do certain things even if it takes extra hours of waiting or what ever because it makes it more challenging. and its piss easy to get gear ITS JUST BULL SHIT TBC was the best
-_________- my dps right now is exelent i just got Shadow’s Edge in my main hand and Crpytmaker in my off hand and im doing a good 10k dps, when i read this i almost shit my pants, whirlwind down to 50% weapon damage and no more 2- 2 handers how do u expect me to survive while questing in cataclysm, im going to get used to looking at my dead body with a pally standing over it
I do vote that we get a aoe like the pallies or dks its a pain in the ars running all over the place trying to get the aggro and then having a caster getting the one u miss. Also sux that we arent generating aggro as we stand i really hope they add somethhing to make tanking easier. Love wars theyre fun to play just a little bit too nerfed
I dont believe in AoEs. Thats just too easy. i dont even use shockwave in the beginning cuz nothing hits me and I gain no rage for me to cleave. Then again id like to see em be a LIIITTLE more creative in gaining agro back for tanking. Maybe like… Every second something I attack that i dont gain 100% agro i get a stacking dmg buff each time i hit it… good for OTs that will just sit there and get rage hungry… or once ag is lost the intervene is refreshed. something besides AoE. Blizz is getting lazy on the creativity.
Looks like fury warriors are getting nerfed to be honest, there reducing WW to 50% but unlimited targets. Thats fine for 5/6 mobs and more but as soon as we get to single dps it’s going to fail miserably and a damn boring rotation… BT > HS > Slam (if procs) > BT > HS YAWN!!!!!
hmm… i don’t know if i should be happy or scared…
it’s fun to see the 1 hands again but will it be better or worse than titan grip? i sure hope its better now when pretty much 60% off all the other warrs i see are arms specc at the moment… they simple nerfed fury warrs to much and destroyed a part of them.
my biggest fear is that they make warrs a little op again and then nerf them to the ground again after a month or 2
There was a little rage way back about fury warriors and how arms is better dps *and* fury warriors are “retarded monkeys” :p …
Whilst i agree fury is possible using a retarded monkey… it is *still* and *always has been* the highest dps spec for warriors… never once from karazhan to icecrown citadel has arms been the best dps spec for warriors…
yes, it’s easy, yes arms may be more interesting but just to clear up once and for all…
FURY IS THE BEST DPS WARRIOR SPEC, IT DOES THE MOST DPS.
k.
just had to get that out there.
oh and warriors are fine, i hope bliz doesn’t break us.
Cool blizzard your so freakin retarded its not even funny. If your giving a choice between 1hs and 2hs, one of those choices are going to be better then the other so then EVERY fury warrior will choose that removing the originality of Titan’s Grip. Maybe if you did not nerf warriors like every patch we wouldent be dealing with this right now. How about instead of trying to make things “more interesting” you take away the 10% damage debuff on Titans Grip. It seems like your giving Warriors pointless abilites to make us happy, which wont.
titans grip is what makes warrs special. why make us use 2 onehanders? why not remove the damage dealt nerf and increase haste? whats wrong with a little op?
welll, i read every post of this discussion and i have to say that im arms pvp and fury pve, and im always get pissed just to know that blizz will come up with a new patch, it always means that we will get a dumb nerf.
last 2 patches (i think) they just removed forever prot pvp, they took away revenge stun (if we just get the buff on damage dealing and the additional target we would get a nice AoE aggro control(keeping 2 mobs stunned for li seconds would help a lot while tabbing to control every trash)) and nerfed to the ground warbringer
the other patches they take our TG 10% damage, and why, that was a pointless nerf, and i would be very happy if the dual wielding 1 handers fury warr would be a viable fury pvp spec and keep de 2 2handers fury warrs as the main dps spec.
in arms we can pull good dps and can fit a arms warrior in a raid if we got no rogue savage strikes, trauma debuff if there is no feral druid and already got a 5% melee crit aura, but the juggernaut nerf is just stupid, and BS nerf is pointless too, if the other classes are winning about BS they should pay more attention, mages can blink during BS and not always when we charge (yeah charge=>blink=>intercept=>frost nova= cliche)
rogues can sprint away, hunters can use deterrance, pally can bubble, locks can teleport, druids can go cat and sprint, DKs and Warr can use tanking skills, BS was a great shot for warrior but wasn´t “oh my god BS im dead” skill, and agreeing with a fellow warriors we should be more though against stun effects, he is right, once stunned we r dead, second wind should be more appealling (i know is a must have pvp talent) and complaining about a coment of another fellow warr, dont say that blizz will make warrs wear mail only DON´T GIVE IDEAS. seriously we dont want to be stronger then the other classes, we just want to go in a 1×1 duel with the same chances to win, and dont take away WW give us another skill make our rotation harder but stronger to get equal dps as all other classes, im very good at dpsing and i know that blizz could make fury warr dps rotation more tricky stronger and interesting.
One last thing: melee haste as the mastery bonus for warrior ury is just stupid, give us bonus melee crit damage or melee crit, we warrior dont like haste, haste is for rogues, buff flurry or something or give an enrage effect that make us attack even faster, we are warrs
we want to hit HARD, and not fast
i just dont think its right that pallys are getting more OP as it is and warriors arent. i play a prot warrior and i loved the stun ability for revenge and now that thats gone its really sucks, yea so wat if i can do more dmg with it. and the whole thing about fury with TG with total bull, cuz i mean fury warriors are known for the 2H weapons.
Completely agree nerfing warriors is ridiculous I have played my warrior since vanilla ever since wotlk came out blizz has been finding a way to make my class more uselss in raid. Why the fuck is bshout and cshout 2mins (4 if glyphed) that’s just stupid. Pallies get a 30min version. If you have ever tried raiding without a pally to do might you will find bshout is almost never up bcuz it’s forgotten due to 2minutes time. Blizz atleast make it a passive to have one of the shouts on at all times due to stance or atleast make the fucking buff last a boss fight without having to rebuff 5 times in one fight.
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right i am completley disapointed about these minor changes that is bs in my opinion i cant belive there nt giving us more changes that that shit we need to be more balanced with other classes and blizz ffs please god give us some aoe for tanking i mean for the love of god look at druid and paladin are u blind if this is all that warriors are getting then thats a complete turn off this is rediculous u should have more plans that that shit! fantastic hunters mana is surposed to be removed for more efficiency i think you should change rage!.
I play a prot war in pvp and i eat almost every other clas for bbreakfast, except DKs. I’m fine with the way they play right now and truley am not looking forward to Heroic Strike being instant because i have Glyph of Revenge and don’t need HS too often.
war-vet.
You stated you dont use shockwave when you start a pull due to no rage from not getting hit… Shockwave is fantastic for a multiple mob pull. Between bloodrage and the rage genereated from charge… there should be 0 lack of rage for your fight. If u pop blodrage, then charge, tc then shockwave… before the mobs are even ready to fight you have already landed 2 tc’s and 3 or 4 cleaves. Now mob control will not be an issue. Warriors are not bad for mob control… thats just the lazy war players saying that. Glyph for devastate and cleave… stop being lazy and use your skills. If your still having problems, then glyph for vig… i always laugh when i see a vig glyph… it says “hey im lazy”.
Yeah tankin as warr is easy atleast at lvl 78 and im wonderin if 80 will suck, idk what the other classes get at 80 but i know warrs get a pvp talent. anybody know what paladins get?
if Cata doesnt hav Blud Elf(BE) warriors im gona buy Halo instead; lyk cmon Wow(rogue), BurningCrusade(rogue), and Cata(rogue agen hav u guyz been playing Wow or juz typin code) WOTLK(Dk n Pally no warrior 4 Blud Elvz d reezon we buy WOTLK was cuz of dah BE Dk n Pally but sumtin wuz missin yeah u guessed it d BE warrior but rily it not d warrior itz juz dat 50% of every Hordy I now has a BE(Dk or Pally one way or the other) BLUD ELF RACE NIDZ 2 HANDED WEAPON USER N BOTHS HANDS!!! Y COZ DEY CANT USE D WARGLAIVE OF AZZINOTH D KUULEST WEPON N WOW.(-yeah I leet speak cuz of Wow so blame Wow^^)
DON’T MAKE FURY WARRIORS GOOD WITH 1h WEAPONS!!!!!!!! The whole reason for fury was the ability to have 2 2h weapons, and if you make it to where 2 1h weapons are just as good, every f’en warrior out there is going to go Arms!! This was what fury was special for. Don’t ruin that. I don’t F’en care if Rouges are the only ones who dual-weild! That’s their special thing. This is a descrace to ALL Fury warriors. Don’t downgrade titans grip or upgrade 1h dual-weilding! It’s fine as it is!!
Congratulations, Blizzerd. You just killed Fury Warriors. F you.
they are not at all downgrading titans grip. what i think they are trying to imply is that the MIGHT just be adding a 1 handed weapon ability =)
Don’t worry I really don’t think Blizzard is gonna f… fury warriors. They always change talents and stuff before they releasr the game. I think they should improve arms and fury, cuz rogues got a talent (5 points) called Reinforced armor which increases armor of leather in 50%!!!! THAT is f… OP, especially when they alrdy have OP dmg, that is a problem for warriors…
If Blizzard really remove titan’s grip from fury warriors they suck!
hi guys is it true tha they will remove the titan grip from the warrior i hope not please do not remove it warrior is fun with the titan grip
BLIZZARD BLIZZARD BLIZZARD I hope some from the dev team reads this
Paladins are a HYBRID, Death Knights are a HYBRID, Druids are a HYBRID, Warriors are NOT A HYBRID, so why shouldn’t they be the BEST tanks, period with out exception? Paladins get the best of both worlds?! Thats totally unfair. Blizz shouldn’t be bias, but YOU ARE. I don’t know about the rest of you guys, but if the next expansion nerfs warriors any more I’m going to another MMO. I strongly suggest you guys look around, wow isn’t the game around. If enough people agree with me, we might see some changes.
Wow, the new class changes look good, but i have a couple of issues. One issue i have is the 1h wep thing, i mean its cool but you have to keep titan’s grip with the class or this expansion is a COMPLETE fail for the warrior class. Another issue i have is a special ability. It seems every other class in the game has a special ability, like Warlocks can summon and so can pallies with the new expansion. Mages can goto ifferent cities with ports, druids can use there flying form to travel in northrend in outlands, DKs have a ghoul for there pet, hunters get a pet and they may get a chance to tame mountas. I mean WTF why cant us warriors get a dam special ability to use like that. It seems all blizz wants to do is just run this class into the ground. Blizz really needs to fix this.
Anyone who plays a warrior knows how fun it is to actually have to try at the game…however playing the underdog thru so many expansions becomes old…They need to let warriors be SCARY if they are face to face with you not laughable as it is now (i’m speaking pvp), as far as PVE I used to think I did alright until I started seeing mages, hunters, rogues and shammys pulling retarded dps in icc….I was pulling 16k thinking i’m the shit with my 1400 ARP (which will be going away in cata) Until I looked at the meter to see 26k DPS from a hunter. Yeah 26k fing K damage….Then I realized I was only 6 on the meter behind the 2 hunters, 2 mages and a rogue….fun I wouldn’t mind it so much if it was closer but 10-16k per fight vs 18-26k is totally lame. When are warriors going to get some real love? And using 2 1 handers is fine, until you realize that whatever bliz does that EJ says is the best spec that is what 99% of all wars will be…so if 2 1 hand weapons is best PVE damage now vs TG you will see warriors rolling on all those shammy and rogue 1 handers, can’t wait to see them cry about us not taking 2-handers…..As far as prot goes, warriors should be able to take the most damage and hold highest threat, we are not a HERO Class, Hybrid or anything we are a traditional class that can’t heal itself (don’t even say that we can with the piddly amounts our abilities do), can’t go immune, can’t tank festergut solo (Paladins ftw), can’t change forms on off pulls to rez dead throw some heals and then shift back to bear, and can’t use a nice 2 hander to tank with while having pets etc….or did I mention insta healing ourselves while tanking for 12k+? I love my war, its a fun class to play but having to try every night and try hard to keep up with people that cast 2 spells (mages), or do an AOE (hunters), just blows.
Blizz do the following:
1. Arms: More damage, more bleeds, more pvp abilities and make them immune to the disarms and dismantles
2. Fury: More damage, make execution worth doing again (this doesn’t mean nerfing other things so its current form is best), give fury an ability for PVP like when you pop it you are immune to stuns, snares, and get a speed buff as you “channel your rage” or something but it doesn’t last forever but this way you can get the classes that non-stop kite (mages) but usually will die to them, which is fine, most classes should have a foil.
3: Prot – More damage, this will help with threat generation, a new aoe to throw in the rotation to help aoe threat, I use revenge (hits 2 targets), cleave with glyph, TC and shockwave when they are up and I do ok but if I slack at all its a fight to get agro back (taunts etc but what about mobs that are not tauntable?) It would be nice to see prot have another shield slam type of ability to cause super threat and maybe as an offset of doing tons of damage and threat your shield can’t be used for a few seconds so this isn’t something you will do unless you really really need it.
these are just a few ideas taken in about 5 minutes of reading….
@ love playing the underdog, Ya i totally agree. Almost ALL warriors are doing less and less DPS with the way Blizz is changing the game. We can barely do anything worth while in the Fury tree when cataclysm comes out. 1h weps are faster then 2h but lack the big damage of 2h. If they are going to install a 2 1h style for warriors then i think the class is a fail. It will most likely keep our DPS the SAME not increase it. Look at mages for example, DO THEY EVER MAKE BIG CHANGES TO IT? no they dont. That is why mages do lots of DPS they dont constantly change there trees and styles. And alot of warriors are already getting mad at the reduction of DPS from Execute. It might be changed in Cataclysm. I mean that was a special ability that gave us some big time damage but now Blizz wants to change it, WTF!!?! Now lets talk about Titans grip. If they remove it, there is going to be ver few warriors around heres why:
Titan’s Grip was once of the main reasons to play a warrior. It gave us a good damage rating and was a great talent. I mean imagine Wielding 2 Shadowmourns, i mean that was so awesome but now blizz wants to change it… 1h weps suck, they are good when you are at lvl 40 and things like that but come on give us Titan’s grip. 2h weps are way better then 1h weps because of the BASE damage. And with two of em its the best of both worlds.
In my mind Fury should get this much of a revamp. What they should do is give us some new moves that do High DPS, since every other class is getting that. Heroic leap is good… but we cant use it every time we attack. Plus blizz should give us a wep only ENCHANT for us warriors that willl increase our rage generation and things like that. ANd they need to keep aome things the same like whirlwind, which i think is going to be a fail with 50% dmg. I mean wtf give us something good
People are arguing about Bubbles, well that’s what shattering throw is for ‘:/
I also heard that there is a new passive buff that allows the Warrior to deal 10% more damage when he reaches 100Rage, but skills cost 50% more rage, resulting in dumping it quicker. I think this is more the Fury thing though, I hope it’s toggle-able, I don’t want to have to learn it and have it on 24/7..
Also, I wish they never took away the Stun in Revenge, I think going Prot till Relentless Strikes was nice then getting the lower CD for Shield Block, then spamming the 50% chance 3 sec stuns..
Relentless Strikes <– sorry, Unrelenting Assault
well ive been a furry warrior for a long time and with the same gear i went arms learned the spec and rotation and i pull alot less dps then furry on another note furry dps using 1h weps is dum they just need to buff arms and furry a bit to compete instead of nerfing all the time i mean 2 1h weps rather than 2 2h weps i call that a nerf they should make a new tallent in cat right next to TG giving 2 1h a buff making it equal to TG rather than better or worse and for arms give MS a buff so its viable to use spec in raid situations but other than that furry is still ahead 500-800dps with BiS gear
lots of really good changes coming down the pipe, let’s see what happens. Teh 41 point talent tree’s are sorta making me worry, but we’ll have to wait and see
LOL Fury fukn owns Arms spec all day long in DPS, all the top end dps warriors are Fury!!!! Whoever says different is a complete moron because its a fact that Fury is Better DPS then Arms. I have a 6k gs Fury warrior and i think if they removed the 10% damage nerf then it just wouldnt b fair, because i pretty much top the charts in every single mob pull and boss fight in icc 25. 12 on bosses, 20-25k on trash n shit. Fury warriors own!
Even 2h weapon gives better stats than 1h weapon… so like we equip 2 1h weapon and we suck due to less strength and more speed! Come on dont take away TG…. Look at other classes… we need some improvement. Give us some good ability for arms…. casters crits us like 7-8k when we ve 900 resi… total crap. We want some pve and pvp improvement like other classes!!!!
guys…. the Arms vs. Fury argument was in 2009… last year it actually was extremely debatable as to which spec could pull more…. but in the current patch (3.3.3) Fury has obviously come out on top.
just putting that out there (notice how no one has said that arms is better than fury anytime recent)
I am happy now! that i can be a blood elf warriors i dont know why but i always thought they should’ve had a warrior choice and now they have! Going to change my race Asap when they release cata