Comments on: Wow Cataclysm Shaman Changes

By: TehSahman

TehSahman — Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:34:48 +0000

Now i’ve read too much QQ about people complaining about Shaman having bad defences.
Shamans have extremley good defnece versus spellcasters. They have Shear every 5 sec with Reveberation, Elemental talent (should be in both Enha and Ele pvp spec) and it’s off the CGD! And they also have Grounding totem every 11.5 sec talented and 4set from pvp.

Elemental Shammys also have very good survivability vs many melee classes, 5 sec root every 15 sec. Elemental Shamans also have TS, which is usable in stuns. Enha Shamans have Shamanistic Rage, also usable in stuns. 30% dmg reduction! It’s almost Pain Suppression! And 5 stack MSw is very good, critting up to 10k with HW.
Even more survivability for Ele, Astral Shift, 30% dmg reduction while in stuns and silences. Imba.

And Woop here said that Ele Shams have trouble against Mages, Hunters and Rogues. Mages and Hunters are some of the easiest classes for an Ele Shaman. Rogues are around 50/50.

Mage: Always dispel FoF(fingers), but don’t do it if u risk dispelling Ice Barrier. DON’T dispel Ice Barrier, i’ll explain soon. Make them use CP, if they’re stupid they will use it on LvB, then you are only locked out of fire and can LB and CL him all u want. But let’s say he’s pro. He will CP u in nature spell. Use some totems of they’re not on CD. When he has use his CP, u are free to heal up, using grounding and Shears. Then you Hex and dispel all his buffs. Then FlS, and here’s the big trick: Cast LvB, and as soon as it’s cast time is over u purge his Ice Barrier. That’s why u shouldn’t dispel it randomly. The LvB will hit him with full force. With Barrier it probably won’t deal any dmg, it’s often completley absorbed. And repeat. Try to stay close at start so u won’t have to trinket DF(using TS)

Hunters: Get close and root. He will use Deterrence. Follow him wherever he goes in GW, When Deterrence is over use FS, switch to GW and follow him again. Do this until next root, then u can start dmging him. When the root is over cast hex and finish him off, if you can’t just run in GW until next root and then kill.

Rogues: Have Lightning Shield and Searing Totem, and cleansing ofc. When he Kidney u, use TS. When he comes back the KS is over unless u are bad at positioning. Then do FlS and root. He will CoS and Vanish. Refresh LS, totems, and w8 for him to come again. Use trinket on the CS and FlS. Do an instant LvB on him. Refresh and just stay alive until next root, use SCT. Keep FlS at him at all times. When root is ready, you root, LvB, if he Blinds u it will be NP coz u have FlS on him ofc. He’ll be almost dead after that LvB because rogues are very fragile and your LS and Searing has taken some dmg. Hex when you see the opportunity. Just never cast any nature spell when he’s close to you, because he will Kick you and rip you apart.

The really hard/impossible classes to beat for an Ele Shaman are DKs(hard to impossible), Affli locks(impossible), Spriests(impossible), Warriors(hard to impossible) And some healers ofc.
-Yeman, Dunemaul. 2.2 achi in all brackets as Ele(now i’m resto

By: truthunder

truthunder — Tue, 20 Jul 2010 10:23:12 +0000

ok im a enh sham have most wraithfull peices and around 1.2 resil and enh needs some sort of shield ele has astral shift resto has earth shield wtf about enhance did they forget about us’ stun is pretty much gg for us rouges shit all over us …but on the other hand let us rip and its all over most of the time AND I FUCKING LOVE PURGE mages QQ so much over it best move sham has in my opnion..

By: Roge

Roge — Tue, 13 Jul 2010 21:11:59 +0000

So people intelligently picked to play as a shaman because it was the strongest all round class. But with every explansion the shaman has been downgraded to a point where its the good at nothing and provides unnoticed improvements to groups. The shaman was the general of a group providing the little differences to turn a battle but not anymore. Without a cleansing totem we’re just a useless member to a group providing a little damage and not much else.

By: Wölfsong

Wölfsong — Thu, 10 Jun 2010 00:17:29 +0000

As far as defense goes for enh shaman, instant healing waves from MW plus Shamanistic rage are decent to an extent, but having to use that big boost in damage from MW just to stay alive is pretty annoying. Our dps is clearly fine for pvp, i would just be way happier if we could have some way to stay alive, without sacrificing so much damage.

By: Shaamon

Shaamon — Fri, 28 May 2010 01:40:21 +0000

i play an enh shaman off spec’d ele…anyways i agree with most other comments. Shamans wether it be enh or ele put out some mass dps but when targeted with a skilled player or more than one enemy they are almost defenseless. i can drp someone in bg’s pretty well but its no use trying to stay alive if im outnumbered.shamans need some sort of bubble like a paladin or a new shock that can be a heal over time.(off subjct: Swords would b sweet/maybe pl8 lol) just a thought guys. hope we dont get nerf’d

By: Bronzehoof

Bronzehoof — Mon, 24 May 2010 20:32:55 +0000

I play an enhance shammy on dawnbringer server and I pulled 12k in ICC… if you’re trying to say they need to be fixed, you might need fixed in the head yourself. I mean I can admit that I’m the only one on the server I’ve seen pulling the dps, but still it’s possible.

By: Sham

Sham — Wed, 05 May 2010 15:51:15 +0000

elemental shaman need a real shield or buble cause they alway be first to shot in pvp and is the unique class that no have a REAL protection…c’mon guys the shield provided by stoneclaw totem is really stupid

By: myfirstshamy

myfirstshamy — Mon, 12 Apr 2010 07:42:07 +0000

AOE healing improved? For reals? Chain heals with riptide is OP as it is. I play resto shaman and I outheal all other healers with higher GS as it is. I just hope they know what they doing cause I love my resto shaman as it is!

By: Dracksar

Dracksar — Sun, 11 Apr 2010 07:18:55 +0000

lol seriously though, how many times have shaman been promised fixes. Granted blizz has done better lately, I’ll wait till it actually happens before I decide to reup.

By: Hoop

Hoop — Sat, 10 Apr 2010 20:32:06 +0000

I play elem in pvp. When i started out things were very harsh. I got geared and run around with relentless/wrathfull all bought without rating. I pwn every undergeared player more or less and many good geared. Certain classes i can’t stand a chance if the player is skilled. Rogues and good hunters/mages are a pain in the ass. We will always have a nemesis class but i do agree that shammys need some great buff on the CC and defense. I run around with 1.2k res and if 2 people targets me im pretty much dead. So basicly what im saying is that shammys do need a buff compared to other classes but my opinion is to put great weight on improving our CC and defense much rather than our dmg.